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Does DNA have memory?

by: Kathleen

Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 12:39:31 PM EST

( - promoted by Alma)

Have you ever heard someone say something or read something and had the thought that you already knew this all the while knowing it is new information?

It is the same feeling you get when you visit a place you have never been but it looks familiar and you could swear you have been there before.

The first time this happened to me was reading a series of books and I found myself all through these books, saying YES!! It happened over and over again through out these books. It was a mind blowing experience and opened me up to a new kind of knowing. A knowing that was mine and mine alone. Truths that spoke to my heart, my being. The rediscovering of these truths is an experience that lifts me to another level of being.

What is exciting to me about this is that science is just beginning to understand how it all connects.

Opening a window of possibilities.

.....

Are you curious? Meet me below for more.

Kathleen :: Does DNA have memory?

I love a mystery and I love answers. The truth is they are discovering there is more to DNA than just a bunch of molecule.

Did you ever wonder how a twin could know when there twin sibling has been hurt or killed even though they are miles apart?

Did you ever wonder about people who have had a transplant and they suddenly take on new interest only to find out that it is what the donor enjoyed?

I think this helps explains this kind of knowing........

Gregg Braden in part 2 of a 7 part series.

Gregg Braden is a fascinating guy who has explored the unexplained for the last 20 years.
He has written many books and his latest, The Science of Miracles ties many of his findings and beliefs together.

As together as a drum beat that vibrates through and around the world.

So this leads me to my burning questions......

Have you ever met someone and had the feeling you have known them before?
Have you ever been some place new but had this odd feeling that it wasn't the first time you had been there?
Have you ever read something new or heard something new and realized it was something you already knew, a wisdom from another part of your being?
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Does DNA have memory? | 29 comments

Yes to number three (8.00 / 5)

Don't know if its bred in or something picked up in the past without remembering where or when.

I don't see why we wouldn't have memory bred in though. Some plants, and insects I've read about seem to have it.

Western omlet.

by: Alma @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 18:19:44 PM UTC

i think so... (8.00 / 6)

DNA has memory. in fact the first essay i was proud of writing was about this in a roundabout kind of way. pf8 played a big part in that coming out of me.
on why...

yeah, i've had a bunch of those "feel like i already knew them" meetings. mrD was one of those. (^.^)

yup, i've gone to ppl's houses & known exactly which cabinet to find a glass, where to find the oddly placed light switch... stuff like that.

yup, yup... sometimes it materializes like... you need to do something & have no idea how to do it, but if you get started...like your unconscious mind takes over & you find your hands doing the right thing.

& i think it's the same "sense" that lets you sometimes know who's calling on the phone. i don't mean like your kid calls you every sunday but... like... the phone rings & for a micro-second you think of a friend you haven't heard from in ages & you answer & it's them.

sometimes i feel like i've dreamt of situations before...
like you'll be at a family gathering or something & just a 5 minute stretch will seem like i've already seen this... aunt lou's going to get up now.... & damned if she don't!
or just anything... walking at the mall & feeling like you know the kid in front of you is going to trip, so you slow down a bit & the kid trips.
but then the day goes on & goes back to "regular"

dinner? i'm not sure. i think i had an onion omelette.

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett

by: RiaD @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 19:15:52 PM UTC

I've had this part: (8.00 / 6)

sometimes i feel like i've dreamt of situations before...
like you'll be at a family gathering or something & just a 5 minute stretch will seem like i've already seen this... aunt lou's going to get up now.... & damned if she don't!
or just anything... walking at the mall & feeling like you know the kid in front of you is going to trip, so you slow down a bit & the kid trips.
but then the day goes on & goes back to "regular"

happen a lot. Right down to the conversations that go with the incidents.

by: Alma @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 19:34:36 PM UTC

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yes (8.00 / 4)

it's almost woooo woooo oooo eerie feeling.
i think maybe we DO dream of the future & only bits of that we retain, remember. these "deja vu" moments are that...the stuff we don't remember up front, like it's tucked away somewhere & we only recall as it's happening.

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett

by: RiaD @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 20:02:17 PM UTC

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It is eerie and surreal (8.00 / 6)

Almost seems to go in slow motion when it happens too. Sometimes the endings are different than my dreams/premonition/whatever we want to call it, and for some reason it kind of makes me sigh with relief when its different.

My MIL has a lot of mental illnesses. She is always talking about how her direct tv service is all reruns. Even live broadcasts are reruns to her. The scary thing is sometimes, more than once, with things like hockey games she says she's already seen, she gets the end score right.

Yesterday she told me we are going to have a big snow. She saw it for the first time 6 months ago on her direct tv. So far no snow storm but if we do get hit.....

by: Alma @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 20:16:55 PM UTC

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It is a strangeness (8.00 / 6)

that becomes the norm. Interesting about your MIL.

My mom often talks to someone and I ask her who and she says mother. When I talk to hospice about it they say that the lines between the living and the non-living are blurred, as if a veil is lifted, when a person is closer to the end.

What a wonderful gift.

by: Kathleen @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 20:29:41 PM UTC

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Oh, Alma, this is (8.00 / 2)

going to come across as glib and I do not mean it that way, especially not towards YOU, but:

There's a rumor here that we will get a big snowstorm 40" on or around March 7.

I don't believe it. The guy who's predicting is basing it on astrology. He claims to have gotten the last few storms correct within a few inches of snow...I wonder how many times his predictions were wrong last year, and the year before that, and the year before that and...well, you get it.

And there's my old boss. A real sweetie: but she had a wicked sense of humor (which I loved). One day -- and this was about six months before Halloween -- she showed us a "video" of a "ghost."

It was a lot of fun actually: I could think of about half a dozen different ways that vid could have been produced, and it was very entertaining.

Plus, the video scared the shit out of one of my dumber coworkers. Heh!

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White

by: Youffraita @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 09:59:16 AM UTC

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Oh good alma and Ria (8.00 / 5)

I am not alone here. Don't you love I get so excited when it happens.

I like to entertain the notion that maybe we have known each other before in another life and brought back together to complete something. I have met couples that after they met they could identify different times and places where they crossed paths before as if some strange force keep bringing them together in the same place and time until they met.

It's a miracle, magic and a mystery all rolled into one.

by: Kathleen @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 20:23:36 PM UTC

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I think we were brought (8.00 / 5)

together for some reason. There are so many people here, some old friends, some new, that I feel really close to.

by: Alma @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 20:41:29 PM UTC

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i'm hoping (8.00 / 5)

we can be.... the hub(?) of a change in attitude...
because rehashing what's wrong just ain't helping, imho.
all the yelling & raging does nothing but make me hoarse & tired.
we need to be working together- person-to-person finding solutions. sharing knowledge is one way.
we need to stop feeding the corporate machine...stop listening to their oh-so-smooth lies & billion $$ ad campaign on why you need the next new latest greatest but wait thing.
fact is if we quit buying so much stuff we'd actually do some damage to the corps. it's obscene the way they add in lethal stuff to our food & drink, how their products are made shoddier & shoddier & yet cost more.
i think by sharing stories, telling what we do that works, maybe others will come & find that our knowledge is good, our ideas have value, that its nicer to share

ok. i'm getting tired again.
going to bed.
(-.-)zzzz

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett

by: RiaD @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 20:52:29 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

Socrates, as told by Plato (8.00 / 4)

Socrates: And if there have been always true thoughts in him, both at the time when he was and was not a man, which only need to be awakened into knowledge by putting questions to him, his soul must have always possessed this knowledge, for he always either was or was not a man?
Meno:. Obviously.
Socrates: And if the truth of all things always existed in the soul, then the soul is immortal. Wherefore be of good cheer, and try to recollect what you do not know, or rather what you do not remember.

that's from Meno, one of the "Dialogues".

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/...

by: Shahryar @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 22:23:37 PM UTC

Holly Shit!! (8.00 / 4)

That was written in 380 B.C.

Thank you for this Shahryar and the link.

by: Kathleen @ Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 22:35:05 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

I had to clean out my camera tonight. (8.00 / 3)

Needing all the space I can get on my card for the orchid show in the morning.

There is this photo I took one morning this week and I had an odd feeling that I've seen it somewhere before.

So I opened Firefly-Dreaming and there it was on the top of the page.

And on another DNA memory note. Is anyone here besides me watching Faces of America with Henry Louis Gates?

Next week they will explore the memories that can be found in DNA.

by: Eddie C @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 03:13:50 AM UTC

Awesome Eddie (8.00 / 3)

I am going to get caught up watching on line before next Wednesday. Thanks for the heads up.

Beautiful moon!

by: Kathleen @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 03:27:56 AM UTC

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You know that is a bit (8.00 / 3)

eerie about the moon. I think it means you are supposed to be here.

by: Kathleen @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 15:20:45 PM UTC

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Hi Kathleen (8.00 / 4)

I can't speak to Braden's findings. I've never been able to get through a Braden lecture. I find him terminally dull for reasons I can't really explain. I just do. BUT on the subject of DNA, try this on for size. Researchers applied linguistic models, structural patterns that apply to ALL languages. They examined the small percentage of DNA the purpose of which we understand, and found that it did not fit the pattern of a language. But when they applied those models to "junk DNA" they discovered that it's a language. This is from Graham Hancock's Supernatural:

This really remarkable and totally unexpected discovery was that in every case where non-coding regions of DNA have been evaluated, they turned out to demonstrate a perfect Zipf Law linear plot. If these DNA sequences had been books filled with pages of indecipherable printed letters, then this result would oblige us to conclude that the letters were not random alphabet soup but words in an organized language. Stanley didn't shy away from the implications of this. In his opinion, the non-coding DNA sequences do contain "a structured language fundamentally unlike the coding in genes." Even though it doesn't code for proteins, we therefore need to consider the possibility that "the 'junk' DNA may carry some kind of message."
Such a daring proposition receives further support from the second linguistic test that the team also applied to the DNA sequences. Developed in the 1950s by information theorist Claude Shannon, this test distinguishes texts written in true languages from texts written in alphabet soup by quantifying the "redundancy" of any string of characters. The test works, and is universal, because "languages are redundant sequences... You can fill in a typographical error by noting nearby characters. A random sequence, in contrast, has no redundancy."
Again, when the test was applied to coding regions of the DNA, these were shown not to have the properties of a human language -- as we would predict. The genetic code is not, and cannot be, a redundant sequence in which errors can be corrected with reference to the general context; on the contrary, geneticists are well aware that even a single mistake involving a single base pair on a single gene can scramble the code and produce catastrophic abnormalities. By contrast, the researchers found that the non-coding sections of DNA "revealed a surprising amount of redundancy -- another sign that something was written in these mysterious stretches."

"Bush is a sociopath. We're all on the verge of Armageddon, but you know what makes it all better? Snuggling." ~ Patton Oswalt

by: Curmudgette @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 04:09:05 AM UTC

Curm that is a mind blower about Junk DNA (8.00 / 3)

Isn't it always where we find answers in places where we think there is nothing, as in the quiet of the mind.

I googled Graham Hancock's Supernatura and came here...

http://www.grahamhancock.com/s...

I listened to him read his experience of the Iboga the most interesting part for me was how it changed him, his view of life. It somehow completed unfinished business so he could move on. It is too bad he couldn't recall more after he came out of it, maybe it is recall that comes slowly as the mind awakens to the experience.

Thank you I find this all so fascinating.

by: Kathleen @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 16:07:55 PM UTC

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I can't recommend (8.00 / 4)

that book strongly enough. The whole thing is a mind-blower. I've read practically all of his books. I just love what he does. You can also find a number of interviews with him on YouTube discussing the book, the use of DMT, and so on. Very illuminating.

The thing about the junk DNA really amazed me... and yet not. I think we're operating on a fraction of "us" in this little 3D experience we call life.

"Bush is a sociopath. We're all on the verge of Armageddon, but you know what makes it all better? Snuggling." ~ Patton Oswalt

by: Curmudgette @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 18:21:50 PM UTC

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Thank you I am going to get the book (8.00 / 3)

I am dieing to know more!

A while back we were talking about mind altering drugs and you had made a comment about drumming can you tell me more about that?

by: Kathleen @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 18:58:22 PM UTC

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Sure. (8.00 / 3)

Shamans have used rhythmic drumming from time immemorial. If you listen to a drum beat of 7 cycles per second, it throws your brain into the theta range, and you can journey. You can also use drum tapes. Michael Harner's is a good one. There are others. Drum tapes also have the advantage of what called a call-back; a rapid drum beat that pulls you out theta. It's a safeguard to bring you out of the journey, so you're less likely to get stuck there. Even with drumming, though, it's important to know journeying protocols and safety tools. From a shamanic perspective, you, or parts of you, can get stuck in non-ordinary reality, just as you can with the improper use of psychotropes. I always recommend people read up before they try to do a structured journey. Sandra Ingerman is a good place to start. I know she has a beginners guide, which I confess I have not read.

"Bush is a sociopath. We're all on the verge of Armageddon, but you know what makes it all better? Snuggling." ~ Patton Oswalt

by: Curmudgette @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 20:28:00 PM UTC

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Thank you! (8.00 / 3)

by: Kathleen @ Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 21:40:05 PM UTC

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Yaaaahhhh! This is complicated...and confusing as anything! (13.00 / 1)

It is interesting, however.

There are a number of occasions when I think I've met someone that I know, and it turns out to not be the case, and there are times when it does turn out to be the case, so it can and does work one of both ways, sometimes.

The human hard-wiring is more peculiar than I realized, even in so-called "normal" people.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

by: mplo @ Mon Mar 19, 2012 at 18:05:17 PM UTC

It is (14.00 / 2)

one of those thoughts to ponder. Thats why I thought it was a good one to post again.

I doubt if we will ever prove, or disprove the theory.

by: Alma @ Mon Mar 19, 2012 at 19:24:37 PM UTC

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Good point, Alma. (16.00 / 1)

You're right.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

by: mplo @ Tue Mar 20, 2012 at 11:35:49 AM UTC

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I miss Kathleen! (13.00 / 1)

This post reminded me of why and how much.

by: puzzled @ Mon Mar 19, 2012 at 19:33:30 PM UTC

I do too (15.00 / 1)

Its one of those busy days here. 5 minutes at a time at the computer. But if I get a chance tonight (after dinner, feeding the animals and gathering garbage) I'll email her and see how she's doing.

by: Alma @ Mon Mar 19, 2012 at 21:10:54 PM UTC

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I got (15.00 / 2)

the email sent out. I told her we missed her and I'll let you know how she's doing if I hear back.

by: Alma @ Mon Mar 19, 2012 at 23:31:16 PM UTC

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Kathleen is well (9.00 / 2)

just busy and she knows if she blogs she won't get anything else done.

She said she does check facebook and email everyday.

She told me to tell everyone hello and said she thinks of us often.

by: Alma @ Tue Mar 20, 2012 at 02:10:35 AM UTC

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Thanks for the heads up, Alma. (16.00 / 1)

Hello to her, too!

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

by: mplo @ Tue Mar 20, 2012 at 11:36:38 AM UTC

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