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Wed. Open: The veil between the worlds grows thin

  

by: Youffraita

Wed Jun 22, 2011 at 02:00:00 AM EDT


(8p~
- promoted by RiaD
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I told y'all about the books I bought in NYC.  Now, I am reading one I found on the discount table:  Marion Zimmer Bradley's Ravens of Avalon by Diana L. Paxson.  First published in 2007, it is the only hc among the novels I purchased.

Here's where full disclosure comes in:  I know Diana.  Back in my publishing days, I published her (The White Raven, The Serpent's Tooth, and more).

She is a very accomplished writer (I'm prejudiced, yes, but by any standard she writes better than Bradley ever did, although they were good friends.  Bradley got the credit for brilliance...Diana is the one who actually possesses it).

Youffraita :: Wed. Open: The veil between the worlds grows thin
So this morning I started reading Ravens of Avalon.  It's a retelling of the story of Boadicea (spelled in the novel more simply, thank goddess), the great warrior-queen of Albion who led her armies against the Roman hordes.

It is, as is usual with any novel by Diana Paxson, very well-written.  Highly recommended.

But that isn't what I want to talk about today.

You see, Diana herself is a pagan priestess.  I have never attended a celebration with her, so I guess you could say I've never seen her actually in priestess mode...but, yes, she is.

So, while I'm only 100+ pages into this novel, I have noticed that she does a better description of what it is like to have a divine presence enter your being than anything I've ever seen.

    Held by the spell, Boudica shook where she stood.  Denied physical release, her rage exploded inward.  In a moment it would break the barrier that protected her identity.  But it was no longer simply an emotion -- she could feel it taking a shape, coalescing into a being that could laugh at the priestess's spell.  I am fury... it whispered.  I am power.  Let me fly free!

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    The priestess sat back, frowning.  In the small part of her mind that remained her own, Boudica saw her arm lifting, and knew that in a moment she would strike the woman down.  Now her own terror warred with that Other who had been born of her rage -- or had She always been there, waiting for the moment of stress that would break the barriers that kept Her locked within?

Boudica at this moment is possessed by the Morrigan, and war is coming.

Do these things happen in real life?  I don't know.  I am William James here, he of The Varieties of Religious Experience, whose wife was something of a mystic.  But James himself never felt it.

I never felt it.

But Diana has.  An excellent novel so far, and the most reveling of her personal religious experience that I've encountered yet.


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jar for Youff (15.29 / 7)


"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



Beautiful, Ria (14.25 / 4)
Thanks for all the graphics.  You Are Fantastic.

I finished the novel this afternoon.  Well...we all know the ending, right?  Boadicea dies.  Diana put a nice twist on it, so if it isn't exactly a happy ending, it's happi*er*.

From the Afterword:

In this book...I struggled with a number of problems that the writer of fantasy is usually free to ignore.  No matter how bravely Boudica fought, or how powerfully the Druids worked their magic, history tells us that they failed....

The events in the novel are based on historical and archaeological evidence, where known.  The Claudian invasion of Britain took place in 43 CE.  Boudica's rebellion and the Roman attack on the Druids occurred simultaneously sometime in 60 CE.  For photos of some of the sites, a timeline, and further background information on how I worked it all out, and information on the other Avalon novels, see my Web site -- www.avalonbooks.net.

Diana has a master's degree in medieval history and knows how to do her research.  I have always trusted her to get the details right (and to know which historians are reliable, and which are not).

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
thanks youff (14.20 / 5)
i've read something by Diana Paxson, i think it was a series of three....?
i dunno. i'm fairly sure it had a ver ver cool cover in sepia tones
(maybe the trilogy i'm thinking of had the same cover illustrator?)

aanyway....

i will look this up!
thanks!!
(^.^)

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



Well, I'm not sure which (14.00 / 4)
trilogy you've read.  The White Raven -- the first book of hers I published -- had a beautiful cover in sepia tones, but it wasn't a trilogy, it was a stand-alone retelling of Tristan and Isolde.  I picked up all rights & back-licensed the hc to Adrian Zackheim, then of William Morrow.  I picked the artist, too.  It was my greatest shining moment in publishing.

So I think I'm justifiably proud about having furthered her career -- although Diana's talent speaks for itself.

I think you'll enjoy Ravens of Avalon.  Just keep a box of Kleenex nearby once you're halfway through....

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
YOU published The White Raven? (15.00 / 3)
I remember that one - wasn't the cover by Tom Canty?  Gorgeous book.

I know Paxson as a writer, of course, but the way she's really had an impact on my life is thanks to the medieval-themed May Day party she threw back in 1965....:)

and oh BTW...if you were in publishing in the 1980s you probably at least met my college roommate.  She worked for Ace for a few years, then went to Harlequin, then went freelance.  She's now a librarian....


[ Parent ]
Yup, that was me. (15.00 / 2)
I had read some of the Westria books, and when I met Diana in Tucson at World Fantasy in, IIRC, 1985, I asked about books that weren't owed to another publisher -- at that time, David Hartwell was publishing Westria at Pocket Books.

And she mentioned this retelling she'd been working on....  I'm in the acknowledgments (under my real name, of course).

I have almost certainly met your college roommate b/c in the early days I did some freelance proofreading for Ace, and the sf department wasn't that large.  And of course we all went to the same parties.  So I think I know who you mean, but her name escapes me (and I wouldn't put it online anyway).

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
speaking of power - (8.17 / 6)
we had quite a storm here in the Chicago area.  Would I could have walked out - lifted my arm and quieted it.  I envision these moments when I am frightened, and I was frightened last night.

Actually - storms - lightening, thunder can be a religious experience.  Of course, this is if you are not worried about your house, childen, animals.  

Many burbs have no power today.    

For who could have foretold
That the heart grows old.
W.B. Yeats


we had (10.00 / 6)
 a really big storm here yesterday/last night also.
that's why i wasn't here- power went out mid-afternoon & was off when i went to bed.
came on sometime in the night.

it did cool down the miserable 1020 days we've been having all week though....

we are expecting high temps (99-102) all week... & also storms
so if i'm not here you'll know why!

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
Yesterday was pretty warm and muggy here in Boston and the Bay State, generally. (15.20 / 5)
Today, we've had rain pretty much all day, and it's supposed to rain tomorrow also, from what our weather forecasters say.  Oh well!

I'm admittedly somewhat freaked out by electrical storms if I have the bad fortune to be outside in one, even though I live here in an urban area, where the lightening, prone to strike the highest objects first, will invariably strike the building(s) before it'll strike me or any other object, but still, it's blinding, and scary as anything.  

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


I never worried about lighning (10.50 / 4)
when I lived in NYC b/c there were always so many towers around.  But I do recall the guy -- this made the papers -- he and his girlfriend and some friends of theirs went out on the roof during a thunderstorm.

Poor guy got a direct hit & was blown out of his shoes.  Dead instantly.  With girlfriend & other friends still standing there as witnesses.

Don't remember anymore where he lived or whether there were taller buildings around -- I was never stupid enough to go stand on the roof during an electrical storm.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
hate to say it but (9.50 / 4)
poor sod got what he deserved for being so stooopid

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
Ouch! Oh, my g*d! (15.00 / 3)
That's scary stuff!  There must not've been any higher buildings around, if the poor guy got blown out of his shoes and killed instantly by the lightening while he was up on the roof.

I'd certainly never, ever go up on a roof during an electrical storm, no matter where I was!

Being on a bicycle during an electrical storm, btw, isn't the best place to be, either.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


[ Parent ]
Yeah (13.67 / 3)
Walking around on the sidewalk in Manhattan isn't so scary b/c everything is taller than you are.  But I sure wouldn't go up on the roof to watch!

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
You're so spot-on here, Youff! (15.00 / 2)
But I sure wouldn't go up on the roof to watch!

Neither would I!

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


[ Parent ]
as predicted (15.50 / 4)
we have another storm blowing up
so i'm shutting it down for the duration.

g'nite fireflys!
♥~

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



G'night, Ria! (11.25 / 4)
Stay safe!  And...thanks again for the graphics, and for the promotion.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
G'night, RiaD! (15.00 / 3)


The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[ Parent ]
Sounds very interesting. Always loved the story of Boudica. (15.25 / 4)
I had no idea Diana is a priestess. That is wonderful! Many years ago I read the trilogy that I think had The Serpent's Tooth. I'll have to go check to see.

I spent many years as a solitary wiccan and had the privilege of performing as the priestess for a co-worker's handfasting. It was wonderful. Since then I've found myself on a different path working in ceremonial & chaos magick. When I was active in the Ordo Templi Orientis I started priestessing in the Gnostic Mass and found it was something I truly felt called to do. I miss it now that I am not involved in the OTO but the growing bureaucracy drove me away.

 


Urm... (13.75 / 4)
The Serpent's Tooth was a retelling of the King Lear story.  The White Raven was a retelling of Tristan and Isolde.  They were both stand-alone novels.

Diana has written some trilogies.  It's just...she's written many more novels than I have read.  So I'm not sure which ones anyone here is referring to.

Well, and it's about time for me to email her again -- we've lost touch -- and let her know how truly large is her fan base.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
I am probably mis-remembering! (15.00 / 3)
It was almost 20 years ago;) I do remember I read the first 2 books and then had a heck of a time finding the 3rd. I think something happened with the original publisher like they got subsumed into a bigger one or something like that so the 3rd book got delayed.

[ Parent ]
Found it! (15.00 / 3)
Oh man, do I feel silly! It wasn't a trilogy, there were many more books. It was the Westria series starting with Mistress of the Jewels.

[ Parent ]
Westria was very good (15.00 / 2)
and David Hartwell is a terrific editor (he first published them when he was at Pocket Books).  But no, lol, not a trilogy.  ;-D

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Interesting (13.75 / 4)
On my bookshelf, I have a copy of Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Mists of Avalon.  It sounds like this book piggybacks on Bradley's original.

Sadly (or fortuitously), it's been so long since I read Mists I could probably pick it up and it would feel new to me.  I may just have to do that...my curiosity is piqued, and now I've put Ravens of Avalon on my list.

At the library yesterday, I picked up the latest Leslie Meier mystery, which, uncharacteristically for her books, revolves around a Wiccan.  I'm as un-spiritual and pragmatic as they come, but a series of coincidences always leaves me wondering if there's more out there than meets the eye...  


I never could read (15.00 / 3)
Mists of Avalon.  Marion was a good storyteller, but...her prose tends to be clunky.

Diana and Marion were friends from the 1960s until Marion's death in 1999.  So it's not too surprising that Diana would pick up the reins, as it were.  But I'm not sure "piggybacks" is the right term -- iirc, Marion did the original "XYZ of Avalon" series after Mists was such a hit, and now Diana is continuing the series.  In her Afterword, she says that they discussed this book while Marion was still alive.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


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