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Open Thoughts: Two for Tuesday

  

by: Eddie C

Tue May 18, 2010 at 03:00:00 AM EDT


(good stuff!
- promoted by RiaD
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A few weeks back I mentioned Dave Herman's Bruce Juice in the morning. More recently I've been forgetting to mention that this series is a dedication to WNEW-FM the place where Rock once lived, at least for me.

Eventually I'll need to dedicate a diary or two to each of the great deejays that made that station so special.  Two that are no longer with us, "The Professor" Scott Muni who was also know as "The Fifth Beatle" and Alison Steele, the Night Bird Flying bring back many fond memories.  I'm also planning to dedicate at least one diary to each of the graduates from that great radio station that have moved on to other things or continued programs that started at WNEW. At least one for Pete Fornatale who as a WNEW-FM deejay founded "Mixed bag," a program that can still be heard on public radio in the New York listening area. There should be another for someone I can actually recall reading the Sunday funnies on the radio, Vin Scelsa or "Bayonne Butch" of "Idiots' Delight" fame, another WNEW-FM radio program that can still be heard on the same NYC public radio station WFUV.

For today's story, there was one deejay at WNEW-FM who stuck out like a sore thumb and also moved on to public radio. "Nighttime host Jonathan Schwartz was a raconteur who would sneak in the Sinatra pop standards that he not-so-secretly liked better than rock." Jonathan Schwartz is still spinning the "old crooners" for old New Yorkers. The man who is known as a "virtual walking encyclopedia of everything 'Sinatra'" hosts the Saturday Show and the Sunday Show on WNYC.  

Eddie C :: Open Thoughts: Two for Tuesday
Often I find myself tuning into Jonathan Schwartz on weekends now and developing a whole new appreciation for a music style that in my younger years I scorned as some silly form of 'generation gap' rebellion. One recent Saturday he played a tune that brought back two sets of memories. A little bit because of my  recollection of Frank Sinatra singing it in my youth but mostly because I have such a fond memory of the acappella version that Rachel Weisz did for Ryan Reynolds in the movie "Definitely, Maybe." So I went looking for a new favorite of mine from "Old Blue Eyes" and look what I came across!

And then there's this one to make it two for Tuesday. To tell the truth after comparing both versions I don't know who does it better but how often do you get to see a twenty-one year old Barbara Streisand standing beside Judy Garland?  

Fooled ya didn't I? You were expecting two from Sinatra but ended up with a Streisand two-fer. This Two for Tuesday stuff can be tricky business.  


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I remember WNEW's last days... (15.00 / 5)
For that matter, pretty sure I was also listening as they played their last song ('99, was it?) before they fully made the move to the "Hot Talk" (think that's what it was called?) format.  Could be mistaken, but I seem to remember hearing their last song as "Where Rock Lives" stuck in traffic in the work van on I-287 southbound somewhere near Bound Brook / Piscataway.

How many format changes have they gone through since then, again?  Last time I was back in Jersey, I think they were playing teen pop or something...

Btw, I watched V For Vendetta for the first time yesterday.  Why'd I wait so long?!  Really enjoyed it.

"My turn."

Heh...

Magnificently memorable multiloquous monologue!

VoilĂ ! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.


Pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones...

I was nowhere near WNEW-FM in the end (15.00 / 4)
Somewhere around the time of Opie and Anthony's "Wip it Out Wednesday"  I tuned out for good. I hear that I missed some great Carol Miller rants and would have loved to have heard Richard Neer's sign off but it was already past tense for me.

The real problems began for WNEW in 1995, when it adopted an adult album alternative format. The timing proved to be unfortunate: after the death of The Grateful Dead's Jerry Garcia in 1995, bereft Dead fans turned to the station for solace, only to be greeted with current hits from The Smashing Pumpkins and Hootie & the Blowfish and very little about their fallen idol. The station, which now had the slogan of "New York's Rock Alternative", evolved to an eclectic mix of adult rock by the end of 1995.

In January 1996, the station declined to switch to classic rock when WXRK, which had a classic rock format for several years, decided to adapt an alternative rock format. In July 1996, WAXQ adopted a classic rock format. By the beginning of 1997, the station reverted to a classic rock station, becoming the second choice for the format when earlier they could have been first. At this point, many long-time fans felt WNEW-FM had completely lost its focus.
Throughout the 1990s, many of WNEW-FM's jocks defected to classic rock competitors WXRK and later WAXQ or to smaller but more freeform WFUV. Ratings remained dismal. In 1996, Westinghouse merged with CBS. Infinity Broadcasting would then merge with CBS in 1997, and CBS retained the Infinity name for its radio division. Thus ownership of this station would go from one network owner to another.

In 1998, WNEW moved to a harder-edged rock format and continued to slump in the ratings. The remaining classic jocks left on the station departed one by one during 1998. Later that year, ex-Boston shock jocks Opie and Anthony arrived from WAAF to do afternoons on WNEW. They played several songs an hour, but for the most part, the show was a typical shock-jock talk show. Opie and Anthony immediately got attention from the station by interrupting their annual "Evolution of Rock and Roll" event by refusing to play the music, or destroying the CDs. They were confronted by WNEW peer Carol Miller a few times on the air, until they were forbidden by management to make eye contact.
With Opie and Anthony's ratings soaring, the station dropped its 32-year rock format for a "hot talk" format. The final moments of the old WNEW-FM came on September 12, 1999; sole remaining long-time jock Richard Neer signed off his Sunday morning show by playing Bruce Springsteen's beautiful dirge "Racing in the Street", and identifying the station one last time, changing the slogan to "Where Rock Lived"



[ Parent ]
Do you remember what WNEW-FM's official theme song was? (15.00 / 4)


[ Parent ]
ahhh (15.00 / 4)
i had much the same feelings as you about that type of music....

then i saw this movie:

& i went looking further....



"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



Then and now (15.00 / 3)
Pack a small bag;

and pack a brown bag;



[ Parent ]
"She's got legs, she knows how to use them!" (15.00 / 4)
I was thinking of doing a Zombie thing and came across this.

And to make it a two-fer, the same group Umass Dynamics Perform Breakfast at Tiffany's a cappella;

But seriously this whole You Tube pages is great.


once (15.00 / 3)
i once did a pony party at dd about a cappella...
i can't find it :(

but these were in it!

and a lil' bonus...



"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
I once saw the Blind Boys Of Alabama and Chrissie Hynde go a cappella together (15.00 / 3)
That was some pretty "Amazing Grace." I can't find any reference to it but it was a fabulous evening in the Beacon theater.

My mother tells me that she used to go watch Sammy Davis Jr. singing a cappella as a street corner musician. Could you just imagine that!


[ Parent ]
what (15.00 / 4)
the fuck's going on with those pics up top? que cojones...

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Thoreau ... and, do no harm

What do you mean? (15.00 / 3)
I should have mentioned that those were WNEW-FM bumper stickers.

[ Parent ]
i believe (15.00 / 3)
the size of the pics are breaking the blog on some monitors...
can you scale them down to 550?

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
i have (15.00 / 3)
re-juked your size on those bumper stickers.

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
But now I can't see them (11.50 / 2)
just kidding.  

[ Parent ]
I jacked it back up to 600 (9.67 / 3)
Let me know if that causes a problem.

I have one for next week that needs to be big. I was hoping for 800 and this was a test drive. I hope I can go at at least 700.  


[ Parent ]
800? no way! (15.00 / 3)
i'm pretty sure 650 is about the limit, although it might be 600.

my computer does not have trouble but some do
i want everyone able to easily view their pages & not have to scroll left and right all the time.

if anyone has a problem with this size please PLEEZE let me know!

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
500 is my limit. (15.00 / 3)
Okay, I have the size set larger so I can actually read without squinting, but any pic or vid over 500 wide breaks the blog for me.  It's why, when I post YTs, I scale them back if they're too big.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
this page is broken for you? (15.00 / 3)
just to be sure....

eddie has the pics at top at 600.

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
Actually, no, THIS page (15.00 / 3)
is fine. But Eddie's last FP diary was totally broken:  the pic was bleeding into the rec and recent lists to the extent that I couldn't really read all the diary titles.

Hmmm...I'm not expressing this well.  

It's a combination, I think, of me increasing the text size (it is supposed to be text-only but that feature doesn't entirely work) and of very wide pics/YTs.

So I'm thinking that the problem isn't so much within the posts themselves, but becomes a problem when they are FP'd.

Is that possible, Ria?

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
nope (15.00 / 3)
not a problem at all.

this diary on the FP is causing you no problems? no bleeding into the side bars?

how about my get growing posts?
i often have a row of pics between sections that together add up to 600....

thank you for telling me.
i won't know there's a problem if you don't speak up!
(yer daddy wasn't a glass blower- i can't read yer mind!!)
(^.^)

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



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newp's diary is (15.00 / 3)
definitely bleeding over: just the pic of the new baby.  On the FP.  It just isn't bleeding over to the extent that I can't read the new/rec'd diary titles.  IOW, it's only bleeding a little bit.

But when I open newp's diary, all is well.  No bleed.

So, fwiw, it SEEMS like the main problem is on the FP.  I have no idea why.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
okay (15.00 / 3)
thank you very very much!
this tells me what i need to know!

i can go look at what size that picture is & then i'll know what size is the limit!

Thank YOU!

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
No sweat, sweetie, but I don't understand (15.00 / 3)
why the pics are okay within their posts, but bleed when FP'd.

Oh, well, you're the expert!  I barely know enough html code to downsize YTs, lol.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


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hmmmmmm (15.00 / 3)
the picture of the new baby is 480.
:-/

is this diary on the FP bleeding?

or any other one?

i'm so sorry to ask all this... but i have to to isolate the problem.

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



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Yes, but ONLY bleeding on the FP (13.33 / 3)
I just opened another window.  The baby's pic bleeds over to the "t" in Contact Edger, under your right sidebar "love this look?"

Ria, I don't think it is ALL your site: I think it also has to do with me enlarging the text.  As I wrote elsewhere: I'm supposedly enlarging "text only" but it never seems to quite work that way.  I guess I could go bitch to Mozilla (^.^) but I'm mostly very happy with their browser.

I am extremely happy with your site.  Don't go too nuts just b/c one loyal firefly is an idiot when it comes to software.  ;-D

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
you're too sweet (15.00 / 3)
looks like we need to stay at 500 then!

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
Not necessarily. I just saved (11.00 / 3)
some YTs for tomorrow's Open Comments, and...none were wider than 480.  (I checked.)

I broke the blog in my own page.

So, I'm thinking the problem is with me, and not with the site at all.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
O my! (15.00 / 2)
maybe you need to go to the dollar store & get some reading glasses?
(thats where mrD gets his- $5!)

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
plz would you (15.00 / 3)
go take a look at this
http://www.firefly-dreaming.co...
& give me your opinion?
tnx

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
Cheers & Jeers, I think (15.00 / 3)
but why can't you also post to Mojo Friday?

Who says you can only post once?

I don't think the audience entirely overlaps, so I would say, post both places.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
O (15.00 / 3)
i'm going to post the whole diary at dkos.
should i post it thursday morning
& pimp to C&J & mojo friday
or post friday morning

dyou have any idea what would be a good time to post?
i gen'ly get up about 7:30

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
It's a mystery... (10.33 / 3)
dyou have any idea what would be a good time to post?

My hunch is middle of the night, when there's not much happening.  Or else very early a.m. (ditto: not much action).  Seems like during the day, lots of people are around & posting.

But that's just a guess, Ria: Orange is a mystery to me, and how to get the best reaction?  Seems like a combo of two factors: lots of people "know" you from the community diaries; and: post after you get home from work at 1 or 2 a.m.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Got (14.00 / 4)
my fingers crossed for the vet visit today.  Here's hoping Dolores is finally ready.

[ Parent ]
The poetry of war (15.00 / 3)
Necklace

Distraught and sad,
anxious and agitated,
her face uncovered, her head unveiled,
unmindful of arrest or policeman,
oblivious to the order, "Cover! Conceal!"
Her eyes, two grapes plucked from their cluster,
squeezed by the times to fill a hundred barrels with blood,
mad, really mad, a stranger to herself and others,
oblivious to the world, beyond being awakened even by the deluge,
a particle of dust adrift in the wind, without purpose or destination,
lost, speechless, bewildered, a corpse without a grave,
carrying around her neck a necklace of curses and tears,
a pair of boots tied together belonging to a dead soldier.

I asked her: What does this mean?
She smiled: It's my poor child's, he's sitting on my shoulders,
he has not taken off his boots yet.

For details and video, check this link.


A pair of covers (15.00 / 3)
Oh sure he was no Israel Kamakawiwo'ole but damn does this sound good;

And can anyone remember that this was originally sung by Ethel Merman?



I had a most delicious movie experience last night (13.00 / 3)
Probably I read the who the director was and forgot. I might be out of touch but I read The New Yorker every week.  I was looking forward to seeing Vicky Cristina Barcelona so I must have known something in the back of my mind but the happy accident of getting in from work one minute after the movie started made the movie so much better.

Had I know the writer and director, a person who whenever a cynic says something like "there is nothing that is really original" I just say that person's name to put an end to such drivel, if I know who it still would have been a surprisingly great movie but not knowing made this story ten times better.  

I don't want to say that name, just in case someone reading this is as out of touch as myself but that particular writer is immediately recognized by the typography of the opening and closing credits, at the end of the movie when the credits rolled and I had just watched the entire movie saying to myself "This is like a new ... for a new generation," it turned out to be the same old ... for a new generation.

Really good movie, really pleasant accident. I should have my status as a New Yorker removed for not having seen it in the theater but I had such a great evening watching that film.

Oh and this young Rebecca Hall is going to do great things on both stage and screen.      


sorry (11.67 / 3)
don't like his work at all
:(


"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
Well it's been fun (15.00 / 3)
But I gotta go now.

Be back in around ten hours.  


have (15.00 / 3)
a good day eddie!

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
damn oil fuckers (11.50 / 4)
transocean approves pay out of ONE BILLION to stockholders
Five days after appearing before Congress to testify about its responsibility in one of the worst oil spills in US history, the Swiss company that owned and operated the oil rig that sunk into the Gulf of Mexico announced  that it would shell out $1 billion in dividends to shareholders.

The revelation that Transocean is distributing a $1 billion profit to shareholders as one of its drill sites leaks millions of gallons of oil into the sea is sure to inflame an already smarting debate over offshore drilling and the company's role.

Transocean has passionately argued that they don't share financial responsibility for the disaster. A clause in a contract they had with BP says that the oil company is obligated to pay for any environmental damage, even though Transocean actually owned the rig. BP was leasing the rig from Transocean at the time of the accident.

Transocean's distribution to shareholders was done quietly on Friday at a "closed door meeting." The company had previously announced that they would vote on the dividend at the event.

To put the distribution in perspective, the amount of profit that Transocean plans to pay out in the next year is half of what Exxon ultimately paid for the Exxon Valdez disaster off the Alaska Coast.



"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



m*thrf*cking s*ns of b*tches (11.33 / 3)
Does the U.S. have any way to sue?  Or bring them up in the World Court for crimes against humanity?

I'm all for that second choice: their rig is destroying the entire gulf, and it's not just a problem for the U.S.  Every fucking nation in the gulf is going to suffer from this.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
i'm with you! (15.00 / 3)
except that the MSM & the white house seem to be trying to hide the extent of the 'spill'

http://www.antemedius.com/cont...  

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
That's why we need Crashing Vor (15.00 / 3)
Not only does he represent boots on the ground zero of this disaster, he also writes REALLY well.  He doesn't get paid for it (as far as I know) but he's been diligent about posting what he's seeing/smelling etc. over at Orange.  And his diaries are heartbreaking: he loves New Orleans.  For the second time in less than a decade, it's getting trashed.

Except this time, a lot of other gulf nations will be trashed too.

The whole thing makes me so sick...I just cannot go on.  I can't.  I'm sorry.  Knowing what is happening down there...if I contemplate it too much, I will be too depressed to live.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
i know (15.00 / 3)
i peep in about once a day or every couple days
& it can't be in the morning!!
it just breaks my heart

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



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