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Books So Bad They're Good: Peper and Solt It As You Plese

  

by: ellid

Sat Feb 04, 2012 at 21:04:37 PM EST


(Do Not Sip Your Coffee While Reading This. - promoted by Youffraita)

I was a failed Girl Scout.

This does not mean that I was drummed out of the Scouts for moral turpitude, embezzlement of cookie money, or failure to sing High Up, High On the Mountain in a pleasing manner.  I had my little green uniform and my little green sash, and no one was prouder of the Sign of the Star than I was.  My first merit badges were in needlework, which shouldn't surprise anyone, and cooking, which should given that I'm about as interested in the finer points of preparing meals as I am in diesel engines.  

No, my failure came about thanks to a nasty cold I acquired in the late winter of my first year as a Scout.  This was back in the old days, when Scouts were actually supposed to go door to door selling cookies, not sit outside grocery stores selling boxes of Tagalongs (then called Peanut Butter Patties) or hand off sign-up sheets to their parents so Mommy and Daddy's co-workers can get their Thin Mint fix for the year.  Everyone in my troop was given a territory, a cheat sheet touting the good works that would be financed by the sale of each and every box, and instructions to sell forty-five boxes of cookies so we'd make our yearly quota.

All this was well and good, and I was more than prepared to wear out my Mary Janes tromping the mean streets of Middleburg Heights, Ohio.  I'd actually sold three boxes of cookies to my piano teacher and was all set to inflict my winsome green-clad self on the neighbors until I started coughing, sneezing, and running an impressive fever.  My pediatrician forbade me to go outside to do anything, let alone sell cookies, for fear that I'd contact pneumonia, bronchitis, or some other interesting lung disease, and I spent what should have been the prime sale weeks watching TV and trying to figure out why anyone would be stupid enough to watch Winky Dink, let alone actually draw a bridge so he and his friends could escape the bad guys.  

Homebound I was, and miserable knowing that I'd let down the troop.  If it hadn't been for my father buying the remaining forty-two boxes of Girl Scout cookies, and my mother freezing most of them, I would have been inconsolable.  As it was, we enjoyed a steady diet of Girl Scout cookies well into July, and I must say that Thin Mints taste just fine with Baskin-Robbins French Vanilla.

Fortunately we moved to Virginia the next year, and I don't remember any cookie quotas at my new troop.  They did, however, hike and camp out a lot more than my troop in Ohio, and one of the reasons I ended up with a massive tonsil infection and spent much of Christmas 1970 convalescing may have been all the hours I spent wading through pristine Appalachian streams, eating bargain basement hot dogs, and similarly enjoying the alleged delights of Scouting.

I also nearly cut off my thumb attempting to whittle, but that is neither here nor there.

Alas, I dropped out before becoming a Cadet, which meant that I missed the joys of wearing an ugly white blouse and a beanie that would have looked stupid on Winky Dink.  I also missed the revolution in Scouting that took place thanks to the women's movement, the one that junked those hideous uniforms in favor of slacks, useless crafts involving felt and glitter in favor of scientific experiments, and feminized woodcraft in favor of a return to the original intent of Scouting.  

This isn't a surprise to anyone who's actually been a Girl Scout, or knows anything about the Girl Scouts' founder, Juliette Gordon Low.  Juliette Gordon, best known as Daisy, was the great-granddaughter of a white girl who had been adopted by the Seneca chief Cornplanter.  In many ways she was the ideal Scout:  intelligent, spirited, and strong, her hobbies including hunting, enjoying the great outdoors, and metalsmithing so she could build the gates to her country house in England.  Her non-Scouting accomplishments including organizing a hospital for war wounded during the Spanish-American War, as well as a successful lawsuit against her husband's estate after Mr. Low died and attempted to leave his entire estate to his mistress.

Daisy, who had severe hearing problems thanks to a freak accident on her wedding day, founded the Girl Scouts of America after meeting Robert Baden-Powell, founder of the Boy Scouts, and bonding with him over their shared enthusiasm for blacksmithing.  Daisy intended the Girl Scouts to be a means by which girls could leave the family circle and develop qualities of leadership, self-reliance, and good old American resourcefulness through outdoor activities, community activities.  Her aim was to produce girls with backbone and a strong sense of duty, not the gentle, fainting ornaments of Edwardian fiction.    

To this day the Girl Scouts are staffed, run, and intended solely for girls and women, regardless of the body one was born with.  The Girl Scouts are a rare and refreshing national organization that simultaneously promotes wholesome American values while making sure that its youthful members have a good time, learn something useful and scientifically accurate, and treat their fellow Scouts like human beings regardless of whether they have a mommy and daddy, two mommies, two daddies, and or one or the other.  Modern Scouts can and do earn merit badges in subjects like being a locavore, public policy, and geocaching and if a young Cadet or Senior Scout finds herself dreaming of the captain of the field hockey team instead of the football team, no one much cares.  

Unlike the Boy Scouts, the Girl Scouts don't care if you're religious, agnostic, gay, straight, rich, poor, disabled, or transgendered.  All they care about is the kids (and the cookies), and if that means that the less enlightened aren't all that happy, so be it.   Daisy herself never let a crappy marriage, deafness, or the cancer that eventually killed her slow her down, and in a time when women were encouraged to stay home, she forged her own path and showed young girls that they could more than drudges or decorations.  The American dream of self-reliance and inner strength became acceptable in the mainstream at least in part because of the Girl Scouts, and that includes girls like Bobby Montoya.

ellid :: Books So Bad They're Good: Peper and Solt It As You Plese
Tonight  I bring but one book, but it and its author perfectly exemplify this type of red-blooded Americanism.  Timothy Dexter may have been a man, not a woman (or a girl), but he lived his life to suit himself, and if he failed to produce something as lasting as the Girl Scouts (or a frozen box of Trefoils), he likely would not have much cared.  Individualism is a fine old Yankee trait, after all, and that this country allows individuals like tonight's author to survive and flourish is proof that for all its flaws, America isn't such a bad place to live:

A Pickle for the Knowing Ones or Plain Truth in a Homespun Dress, by Lord Timothy Dexter.  Despite the title, this little book is not an early American housekeeping guide, nor is it an 18th century tailor's manual.  What it is, is not entirely clear.  Is it a treatise on philosophy?  A memoir?  Advice for living in the new American republic?  A marital guide?

Perhaps a quotation will help solve the mystery:


IME the first Lord in the younited States of A mericary Now of Newburyport it is the voise of the peopel and so Let it goue Now as I must be Lord there will foller many more Lords pretty soune for it dont hurt a Cat Nor the mouse Nor the son Nor the water Nor the Eare then goue on all is Easey....

Hm.  That's a bit opaque, especially this business about "the Eare."  Perhaps another passage will help:

The yong man that doth most all my Carving his work is much Liked by our grat men I felt founney one day I thort I would ask sade young man whare he was bone he sade Now whare what is all that Now whare was your mother over shaded17 I says my mother was if I was to gess No I tell in Now town borne o on the water I says you beat me and so wee Lafed and it shuk of the spleane shoue him A Crows Neast he can carve one A fine fellow --- I shold had all marbel if any bodey could to me the prise so I have sent for 8 busts for kings and grat men and 1 Lion & 2 gray hounds I hope to hear in foue Days to all onnest men.

Dear me, that really didn't help much, did it?  Maybe this will be better:

Fourder what diffrent wous we have of this world & the other world two good women Liven in a town whare I once lived one was sick of consumsion Near Death both belonged to the Church very onnest only the well woman was weak in wous & thing says unto the sik woman I thinks you will see my housbon doue tell him I and my son A greus very well and wee are all well and the sow is piged and got seaven pritty pigs and fare you well sister this I belieave is serting troue & so fare the well --- I shall com A gane in Littel while

Uh huh.  I see.  

Well, if reading the actual work is no help, perhaps there are some clues in the author's life?  Just who was this Lord Timothy Dexter, and what was he thinking?

The who is relatively straightforward.  Timothy Dexter, born in 1748, began as a merchant of Newburyport, Massachusetts, a town north of Boston.  He must have come across as somewhat less than canny, since his fellow townsmen gave him laughably bad advice about what to ship where, all of which Dexter cheerfully took to heart.  There's no other reason for someone to ship a cargo consisting entirely of bed-warmers to a tropical land like Jamaica, for instance, especially when the rest of the backup goods consisted only of domestic cats, not something useful like cloth or lucrative like silver tableware.   And why would an allegedly sharp businessman waste precious time and money sending warm woolen mittens to the lovely tropical islands of the distant South Seas?  Or an entire ship full of coal to a coal mining region like Newcastle?

A fool Timothy Dexter must have been, for he took this ludicrous advice and followed it to the letter:  bed warmers and mousers to Jamaica, mittens to Polynesia, coals to Newcastle.  Doubtless the good folk of Newburyport snickered over the stupidity of Timothy Dexter, and enjoyed many a laugh at his expense.

Little did they know that, as my late father always put it, "God loves a fool."  For the coals arrived in Newcastle in the middle of a strike that had jacked the price to the equivalent of post-Katrina natural gas levels.  The tropical cargoes fared even better; the bed warmers were the perfect size and shape to use as molasses dippers on the sugar plantations, and the mittens were promptly bought by visiting Chinese merchants who were looking for something warm and sturdy to sell to their trading partners in Siberia.  Best of all, Dexter's felines arrived in Kingston just in time to make short work of a plague of rats that was threatening to overrun the whole island.

Far from being ruined by bad advice, Timothy Dexter became rich.  He became even richer after the Revolution, when the Continental Congress redeemed all the paper dollars he'd patriotically bought for a few cents at their full face value. Was it any wonder that he began calling himself "Lord Timothy Dexter" even though the proud new Republic had no titles of nobility?  Or that he bought himself one of the grandest houses in town as a way of displaying his newfound wealth?

Alas, riches did not bring happiness, or a secure place in what passed for society in Newburyport.  The very people who had advised him to sell the cats, and the warming pans, and the mittens, now scorned him as being Not Our Kind.  Despite his wealth and his fine new house, Lord Timothy Dexter found himself a pariah, an outcast in his natal city.  So Lord Timothy set out to show the good people of Newburyport just what was what.

He began by building a mausoleum for himself and his long suffering wife.  That was not particularly odd, as anyone who visits a New England cemetery can testify, but note that most such edifices are indeed in cemeteries.  Lord Timothy's was in his yard, right where everyone passing by could see it.  Even better, he set up a series of classically inspired pillars topped with finely carved wooden statues of famous men.  Many were of Biblical figures like Adam and Eve, or Revolutionary heroes like Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, but others were less obvious; Lord Timothy was a patriotic American, so what was William Pitt doing there?  Or that odious little Frenchman Bonaparte?  

More to the point, what was Lord Timothy himself doing up there on a pedestal?  Surely he wasn't comparing himself to Washington?  Was he?  Was he?

And why was he telling everyone that his poor wife was a ghost?  Mrs. Dexter may have been a bit of a nag, but she was very much alive, and none too pleased to be living with all those statues.  She likely was even less pleased when her husband hired a large and expensive retinue of servants, only a few of whom were needed to run the house and tend the statues; whatever
Mrs. Dexter had expected when she married, it surely wasn't a fortune teller (presumably to tell her husband when the next litter of kittens should be dispatched to Jamaica), a poet laureate, or a professional idiot lounging about making the family even more of a laughingstock than it already was.

And then Lord Timothy, having achieved the worthy age of fifty years, wrote a book.

This should not have surprised anyone.  Lord Timothy had long since put a sign at the entrance to his home that proudly proclaimed I am the first in the East, the first in the West, and the greatest philosopher in the Western World, so it was only a matter of time before such an accomplished man shared his thoughts with the world.  A Pickle for the Knowing Ones, for those unwilling to wade through the...eccentric...spelling and non-existent punctuation, is part autobiography, part advice based on Lord Timothy's vast experience of the world, and part bitch fest about politicians, ministers, and (of course) his ghost wife.  At first Lord Timothy handed out free copies to anyone who showed the slightest interest, but soon word got out of this remarkable production, and soon A Pickle for the Knowing Ones began selling briskly.  It went through eight editions in short order and still periodically shows up at fine historic house gift shops and used bookstores, courtesy of small imprints like Peter Pauper and other fine publishers.  Best of all, most editions are drawn from the second edition, which included thirteen lines of punctuation marks that Lord Timothy included so that readers upset about his...unusual...writing style could "peper and solt it as they plese."

Lord Timothy Dexter lived for eight more years after the publication of his only book, surrounded by his statues, his entourage of servants, and what looks like the mutant offspring of a pig and a miniature pinscher.  His later years were enlivened by a mock funeral that he staged for himself because he wanted to see how people would really act when he died; he was gratified to see what several thousand people crowded Newburyport to bid him farewell, but was less than pleased when his ghost wife didn't cry.  

So were the mourners when they heard him yelling at her.  

Alas, Lord Timothy himself became a ghost (or something) a few years after his funeral.  Most of his statues succumbed to the elements, the exception being William Pitt, and his fine house was turned into a hotel.  It later became a library, which is only fitting for the Greatest Philosopher in the Western World.  

Whether the library contained bed warmers, mittens, or a population of fat tropical tabbies is unknown.    

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So, good friends - what pickles of wisdom have you for us tonight?  What tales of self-reliance and strength can you share?  Were you ever a Girl Scout?  A ghost?  Been within ten miles of Newburyport?  It's Saturday night, so come share....


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He is almost -- ALMOST -- (14.67 / 3)
readable if you sound out the words, and allow for New England's lamentable inability to pronounce Rs.  (I'd like 'em better if they would also stop VOTING for Rs.)

But vanity publishing has ever been thus: bad spelling, worse writing, and ego Santorum over it all.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


I've read a few (15.33 / 3)
doozies lately in the self published area.  A lot of the newer free kindle downloads from Amazon are vanity publications.  Luckily most of them aren't too long  because I have a hard time not finishing a book no matter how bad it is.

[ Parent ]
New England's dropping of their "Rs": (15.50 / 2)
There are varying strains of that, Youff, depending on where one goes.   It's palpable in the New England accent, generally, but it seems even stronger and more prominent here in the Bay State, and, especially here in Boston.  However, even in Boston, the strength of the accent, which is rife with the dropping of the "r's" varies, depending on ethnicity, socioeconomic status, and the degree of education that a person has.


The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[ Parent ]
Heh...Miki, in my senior year (8.50 / 2)
at Penn State, I took a seminar with a professor who hailed from your turf.  He was smart, well-read, well-spoken, and VERY well-educated.  But he pahked his cah at Hahvahd Yahd.  Lol.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


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Juliette Lowe: Girl Scout: (15.50 / 2)
I remember reading and hearing about Juliette Lowe, ellid.  I recently received a rather large book about her and the Girl Scouts from my relativees as a present, during my last visit to Iowa City.  It seems like an interesting book.  

I was a Girl Scout from the 5th through the 8th grade.   (My mom wouldn't let my join Brownies in the 3rd or 4th grade, because she didn't consider me emotionally mature enough to do so, even though I badly wanted to join and envied the other girls who were Brownies.

So, in the fall of the 4th grade, when our homeroom teacher gave notices for  all the girls to take  home about joining Brownies, I excitedly gave the notice to my mom after coming home from school, only to be told that my joining Brownies was out of the question for the following reasons:

A)  I was emotionally too immature and too badly-behaved.

B)  I had piano lessons on Wednesday afternoons.

C)  I needed to also see my shrink once a week, also.

With a heavy heart, I went to the bathroom,  my eyes brimming over with tears, and had myself a nice cry.  It bothered me to think that my own mom thought I was too "abnormal" to do what lots of other kids were doing;  joining Brownies.  I'm sure that if I'd been a different kind of girl, my mom would've changed my piano lesson days, and my shrink appointments, but that didn't happen.  "Go and help dad with what he's doing"  my  mom said, somewhat sharply.  "But that doesn't mean you're a Brownie...period."  

I resigned myself to not being able to join Brownies like so many of the other girls, and it bothered me that the issues that I had prevented me from doing lots of things that I wanted to do, and having the kind of social life that I so badly wanted as a teenager.  The fact that my mom tried her damndest to get me involved in issues such as Civil Rights, the anti-war Movement and the student revolts against the  United States' involvement with Indo-China, and other stuff, didn't exactly emeliorate the feelings that I had about being different, either.

Toward the end of that school year, my parents took me and my sister out of school shortly before it ended, and we went on our six-month travelling trip around the world, with India as our longest stay.  It was interesting and adventurous, and yet I was too immature to really appreciate it.  

That year, shortly after I came home, and I started the 5th grade, my mom asked me if I'd be very anxious to join Girl Scouts.  I said yes, and I joined up, with the help of my mom.
I was a girl scout from 5th through 8th grade, and I really enjoyed most of those years..a lot.  However, toward the end of 8th grade, it began to sour for me, and I once again felt rather left out by many of the other girls.  I left shortly before the end of the 8th grade, and quit Girl Scouts for good.  


The more things change, the more they stay the same.


I couldn't get (8.00 / 2)
into the Brownies either, but it was because the local group was full.  Since I was already kind of a social misfit around other girls I figured they might not really be full but just didn't want me in their group.  I didn't get along very well with the girl whose mother ran the group.

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That's possible, Alma, but one never really knows what's on a person's mind. (15.50 / 2)
People can be funny (or not so funny) in that respect.  Sometimes one can't always figure it out until much later after a rejection of some sort happens.  It sounds as if the fact that you and the girl whose  mother ran the Brownie troop didn't get along very well may have been a factor, which, if that was the case, is a shame.  I wonder if the girl herself didn't like the idea of your being in the group.  If that be the case, she violated your rights and deprived you of the privilege of having a community to be part of.  

Sometimes, the rejection(s) do come in the form of polite excuses, such as "there's no more room" excuse, or some other alibi, and sometimes they're more out and explicit, such as  "we don't want to play with you today.", or  "your kid has behaved so badly that we can't have her around here". type of rrejection.  

I ended up going from one summer camp to another every summer as a young kid, because none of the camps that I was sent to wanted me back the following year.  They'd always say  to my parents  "We've got no room".
'
Or, if the kids on the block didn't want to play with me, they'd pull some excuse, such as we're going somewhere, or whatever.

I used to take those excuses totally at face value when I was much younger, because i wasn't aware of people's motives, but I realize it now.

Sure, to a certain degree, various social skills, such as empathy, etc., do come naturally to most people, but I also think that, without sufficient external experiences to buttress that and add to it, social skills can also fail to develop, or fail to develop adequately.  My lack of innate social skills resulted in my isolation from (most) other kids.  That being said, isolation from other kids also helped stunt my social skills.  

Of course, my family wanted me to have a better education and become excited about knowledge and about learning, which an awful lot of kids that I went to school with weren't.  It wasn't until years later, when I began living separately from my parents and began meeting and coming in contact with people of many different backgrounds and social/political persuasions, that I did become more interested in the world around me, but that didn't start to come until I was older and more mature.  

So, my experiences in my life, both biological, and external, have for better and/or for worse, contributed to the kind of person I've turned out to be, and have helped shape my attitudes towards the world, and towards people in general.



The more things change, the more they stay the same.


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We all develop at our own rate(s) (8.00 / 2)
You might have been too immature in your late teens to have done what so many of us did -- go away to college and live away from parents, and thus mature that way, by dint of necessity -- I don't know, but think you've written to that effect in the past.

But you eventually DID grow up, and you are a fine and highly functioning member of society now, Miki, and we love you.

Give Aziza a kiss from me, OK?

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Thanks, Youff. (16.00 / 2)
You've made some very good points.  It's also true, however, that I really wanted to go to school here in Boston,  I did, and I'm glad of it.   I'm a person who has always needed, due to my own hardwiring and psychic make-up, to do things more slowly than many, if not most other people, and I believe that, in many ways, it's paid dividends.  I'm better off for it.  

I'm also more of a stick in the mud than lots of people, if one gets the drift.  I did grow up, and begin living separately from my parents, but not until much later, and I'm also glad of it.  I'd tried it when I was somewhat younger, found I was too immature and not ready for it, moved back home, and decided to try it again afew years later, which worked.  

Aziza will get a kiss.

Thanks again for your compliments, Youff.  

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


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Meh. I was a Brownie. (15.50 / 2)
It was okay, I guess.  The coolest part was getting a girl scout pocket knife and a girl scout compass from my parents.

But I think I really wanted to be a boy scout.  I don't know what girl scouts teach now, but we didn't get much in the way of woodcraft or fire making or how to tie knots or anything really FUN and USEFUL when I was a Brownie.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


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As a Girl Scout, (15.50 / 2)
we went on a number of camping trips, but I also don't recall learning how to tie various knots, making a fire, or how to paddle a canoe, or anything like that.  We did learn how to make "s'mores", and to roast marshmallows over an open fire on a stick with a whittled, tapered end to put the marshmallows on, but that was about it.  

I did have a Girl Scout handbook, and there was a set of ten laws that we were supposed to obey:

A)  A Girl Scout is Truthful

A Girl Scout is Cheerful

A Girl Scout is Thrifty

A Girl Scout is Loyal

A girl Scout is a friend to all and a sister to every other girl scout

A Girl Scout Obeys orders

A Girl Scout is courteous

A Girl Scout is a friend to Animals

A Girl Scout is Helpful

A Girl Scout is clean in thought, word, and deed.

I'm not sure that I have the Girl Scout laws in the correct order, but now that I'm much, much older, I can't seem to buy into a lot of the admonitions that these laws seem to put out;  that anybody who has a "down" or an "off" day,  or doesn't follow the pack every single minute, or isn't super-friendly to everyone in sight, or love everybody, is suspect, and doesn't really belong.  

I never thought of the laws much when I was in Girl Scouts, and I wasn't one who was able and/or willing to fake it when I wasn't feeling particularly cheerful.  Now that that's all behind me, it's occurred to me more and more that, while the Girl Scouts wasn't as repressive as the Boy Scouts were,   Girl Scouts, too, had their constraints, if one gets the drift.  I can see where Girl Scouts serves as sort of a community for girls to get together, and, for awhile, it was for me.  However,   it had its limits, because I could not be the kind of goody-two-shoes that I was supposedly supposed to be as a Girl Scout.  

Some girls joined Girl Scouts, only to drop out again very shortly, possibly because they themselves felt constrained by it, and couldn't maintain the sort of goody-two-shoes image.  I now identify with these girls,  because I realize that I myself, could not maintain that credo, either.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


[ Parent ]
Miki, maybe I am just projecting, but (15.50 / 2)
I think all the girls in our generation wanted to be boy scouts:  How to build a fire in the woods.  How to sail a boat from Boston to Oslo.  Y'know, practical stuff.  (^.^)

I was about twelve when I got a paperback copy of Kon Tiki for Christmas.  Both my parents knew that all I wanted for presents were books.  Birthday, Christmas, stuck in bed b/c of the flu: gimme something to read.

Kon Tiki made me want to sail away...to anywhere.  If you haven't read it yet, you are in for a treat.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Good morning, Youff! (15.50 / 2)
Thanks for the heads up on the book Kon Tiki.  I think I've seen the book, and I've heard of it, but I haven't read it.  

It's good to know that you've always been a bookworm.  That's fabulous.  

Both my sister and I enjoyed the Nancy Drew mysteries for a really long time.  The same thing was true with the Bobbsey Twins, Kay Tracey, and even the Laurel and Hardy books.  Books by Enid Blyton were also wonderful to read, although I didn't like her mysteries very much.  Her short stories, such as stories about naughty and good children, as well as her novels, most notably   "What Katy Did", were great to read.  

It's also true that many of the series books mentioned about were written by "ghost" writers, but they were enjoyable, to boot.  

I enjoyed reading Nancy Drew books up through the 8th grade, as well as books by Lois Lenski, as well, but by the time I reached high school, I'd outgrown those books.  The fact that I was still reading such books when I was in the 8th grade, of course, did open me up to some questioning attitudes and a bit of ridiculing by some of my classmates, but, since I was regularly the target of ridicule by classmates (especially many of the boys) anyway,  this kind of thing was trivial in comparison.  


The more things change, the more they stay the same.


[ Parent ]
I was quite (0.00 / 0)
the tom boy and the leaders daughter was one of the most girlie girls I've ever seen.  Thats why we didn't get along.

The boy scouts probably would have suited me better.

Both of my kids were in scouts and our boy scout troop and pack encouraged the whole family to participate and since I was the den assistant leader Katie went with me to a lot of the meetings and almost all of the field trips and this continued onto the troop activities as we advanced from cub scouts to boy scouts.  She did about everything the boys did and she liked it much better than brownies and girl scouts.

I probably ended up better off for not being in brownies.  I really don't think their activities would have been anything I really liked.  But of course at that time all I saw was not even getting to see if it was something I liked.  


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~Plutocracy Files~

Radical Radio
~Left-Wing Radio Stations~

~Political Discontent Radio~

Brilliant Blogs
~Antemedius
~Be-Think
~Burning the Midnight Oil
~Cabaretic
~Daily Kos
~DocuDharma
~The Dream Antilles
~dubious ventures
~Ethicurean
~fake consultant
~Firedoglake
~Hecate
~Ignoring Asia
~La Vida Locavore
~Lets Japan
~Margaret & Helen
~Minimalist Photography
~The Minimalist Woman
~Muskegon Critic
~My Left Wing
~New Progressive Alliance
~Original Cin's
~patricjuillet
~Pioneer Woman Cooks!
~Right of Assembly
~The Stars Hollow Gazette
~Street Prophets
~Timbuk3
~White Knuckles
~Wild Wild Left
~Wise Living Journal
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~Fun Finds

~Good Places

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Interesting~

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Spiritual Sites

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Ready Resources

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Weather



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