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Other Worlds

  

by: incessantrevolutions

Sun Jul 04, 2010 at 09:30:16 AM EDT


(noon~
- promoted by RiaD
)

While this world's problems press hard upon me, mind and heart leave this small pale blue dot and wander through the cosmos and wonder: Is this all there is? And I hope not, I hope not...

Today's APOD shows the first confirmed direct image of an extrasolar planet orbiting a star similar to our Sun.

Perhaps there are other worlds on which intelligent inhabitants live in harmony with one another and with their environment.  

incessantrevolutions :: Other Worlds
Yesterday's APOD offers additional hope...

And the Kepler spacecraft observatory is starting to deliver some startling numbers...

Over its first month and a half of operation, between May 2 and June 15, 2009, Kepler detected over 850 stars that showed the signature dips in luminosity that characterize a transiting planet. Of these about 150 were shown to be "false positives," that is stars that display the effect for other reasons, and almost certainly do not have a transiting planet. This leaves 706 stars that at this point appear to have transiting planets, although it is almost certain that further studies will show that a good portion of them will ultimately turn out to be false positives as well. But even in the extreme case that a full half of these "candidate planets" will prove to be no planets at all, that still leaves Kepler with a haul of over 350 new planets.

To appreciate this number, consider that since the discovery of the first exoplanet in 1995, astronomers have detected roughly 400 exoplanets using a slew of different methods. This means that in its first month and a half of operation Kepler has found almost as many planets as all other methods combined in the preceding 15 years!

I had the honor and privilege of working with a group of scientists many years ago who were beginning this type of work and pushing the limits of technology in an attempt to detect planets around other stars. So this latest technological achievement is something I can lay claim to having had a very very small part in. I am astounded at the progress being made and I'm looking forward to the discovery of the first truly Earth-like planet, which I happen to have an educated hunch will be named "Sagan" in honor of Timbuk3's long-departed friend's namesake - Carl Sagan!

Remember to look past the fireworks tonight, my friends, out into the cosmos, and wander and wonder with me...


The Young Galileo Speaks
-By Ray Bradbury

O child, they said, avert your eyes

Avert my eyes, I said, what, from wild skies
Where stars apear and wheel,
And fill my heart and make me feel
As if this night, and then another, and another
I might live forever, and not die?
Turn off my gaze, shut off my will and soul from this,
This fiery bliss and joy that tempts me to go forth
At 2 am and lie upon the lawn?
A boy alone with Universe
Where song and verse of God lie overhead
For me to read and know and sing,
Not know all this, go blind?
Why, God minds me to be so
He put the bright sparks in my blood
Which spirit, lighten, flare and frighten me to love.
Small sparks, large Sun,
All one, they are the same,
Large flame or small
I know and keep it all in eye, in heart, in mind.

The flavour of the night lies on my tongue
I speak it so,
That others, uninviting of themselves
Abed, not brave, may know,
What this boy knows, and will forever know.
The Universe is thronged with fire and light
And we but smaller suns
Which, skinned and trapped and kept
Enshrined in blood and precious bones
Hold back the night.

Keep holding back the night y'all. Keep holding back the night...


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world weary, cosmos aware (15.00 / 7)
Have a happy day, fireflies. Share it well.

"In proportion to the vigor of the individual, these revolutions are frequent, until in some happier mind they are incessant..." R.W.Emerson - Compensation

I'd seen the first picture (15.00 / 6)
...but not the second. Cool.

My own bet is that stars without planets are exceedingly rare. I have no reason to believe our own solar system is a fluke. The opposite seems much more likely.

We're finding a lot of "Jupiter-like" planets, right now, for the simple reason that they're bigger and easier to find. But I'd predict that "inner, rocky planets" are just as common, and BTW if it weren't for Jupiter our own planet would be an asteroid target. So finding those "Jupiter-like" planets is a GOOD thing. An extra-solar "earth" needs a "Jupiter" for life to exist there.

It all adds up to lots of life in the universe, to me. The question is, if a planet is 2500 light years away, which means we're seeing it 2500 years ago, what's there now and how can we possibly know?

The size of the universe is difficult to wrap our heads around.


Back in the day (15.00 / 6)
When I was studying to become an astronomer, we were detecting smallish brown dwarfs with some regularity, but even large "Jupiters" were at the theoretical limit of our detectors, which means that even the results we got in that range were speculative, at best. But we always sincerely thought that they had to be there - the Drake equation and all...

My life took a different direction, but I haven't stopped being intensely interested in new developments. And yeah, the time lag is tremendous when we look out there. It's staggering to think that 2500 years ago we had no concept of radio waves or any other means of communicating across the interstellar gaps.

I do not think that we are alone as intelligent beings, other than in the sense that we probably won't ever confirm it! SETI was really getting cranked up back in my day, too. I actually took a class from the scientist who revolutionized SETI with billion-channel radio receivers. Who knows, maybe someday soon we'll make "Contact".

"In proportion to the vigor of the individual, these revolutions are frequent, until in some happier mind they are incessant..." R.W.Emerson - Compensation


[ Parent ]
million-channel not billion, LOL n/t (8.60 / 5)


"In proportion to the vigor of the individual, these revolutions are frequent, until in some happier mind they are incessant..." R.W.Emerson - Compensation

[ Parent ]
Universe (15.00 / 5)
I also believe there are millions & millions of systems out there that could be life supporting.
One thing about our system & it`s life allowing condition is it`s precise location in orbit.
A little closer orbit to the sun & it`s too hot, & a little further orbit , we freeze.
I think we evolved to our location, so life on other planets would be possibly quite different considering the different chemical make-up of their respective atmospheres.
Even if by not so long odds, a planet was orbiting a far away sun in the precisely same distance as ours
(and the sun was near identical to ours) the evolved life might be very different from ours, although I think it`d be cool to meet a "chick" from there.

long odds (12.75 / 4)
Hey Knuck the odds may be long, but even if they are only one in ten trillion, that still means we've got plenty of company lurking out there! I think one thing that is discounted in the estimations of life out there is the possibly crucial role that our Moon has played in the development of life here and just how rare our kind of twin planet may be.

When the proto-Moon came along about 4 billion years ago and collided with the proto-Earth, the transfer of large amounts of materials from the proto-Moon that wouldn't ordinarily condense in such quantities at our specific location in the solar gas disk may have been an important part of setting conditions for the development of early life. My current understanding of the latest work is that proto-Earth got lots of iron from the proto-Moon, for one thing. And that allows us to have a larger than 'normal' iron core that has stayed molten longer than it would have otherwise.

Since we have a molten iron core, we have a strong magnetic field that shields us from some nasty forms of radiation that our Sun and the Universe hurl at us regularly. Mars' proportionally smaller iron core has already solidified and doesn't support the strong magnetic field that we enjoy. But, even with the odds being that much longer, though, we just can't be alone - the numbers of possible worlds and world configurations and life configurations are way too staggering.

I am a regular reader of Scientific American, and although they have gotten a bit sensationalist on their covers lately, the articles are still good. Not too long ago they had one on different possibilities for photosynthetic life, showing how different chemicals could be used for photosynthesis that were more sensitive to different parts of the spectrum. Worlds with different colored suns could still support different types of photosynthesis. Some of the combos of chemicals lead to purple plants or blue plants or red plants, etc. Green chemistry just happens to work best here! It was pretty cool to imagine, and they did do some artists representations...Here's a link to a related short article and podcast.

As for "chick(s)" on other worlds, I would just hope that they are warm-blooded - I prefer hot chicks... (though my definition of hot mostly means brainy, good-hearted, and willing... ;) [no offense to any females around here - you are all certainly brainy and good-hearted and good-looking... just don't tell my wife I said that!])

"In proportion to the vigor of the individual, these revolutions are frequent, until in some happier mind they are incessant..." R.W.Emerson - Compensation


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incessantrevolutions (15.00 / 3)
I mentioned "not so long odds" meaning I believe the numbers are so astronomical, it is easy to extrapolate that there must be many planetary systems out there.

I get online Space.com & Science.com, weekly newsletters on a variety of subjects.
I`m now reading the latest Smithsonian, a special edition, that you would find quite educational also.
It`s actually the best Smithsonian edition I`ve ever read. [40 things you need to know about the next 40 years.]  


[ Parent ]
Thanks for the 'heads up' (15.00 / 2)
I will track down a copy of that Smithsonian. It's also a good mag that I have had a subscription to in the past. I had to drop it when I found myself accumulating stacks of unread mags a few years ago!

"In proportion to the vigor of the individual, these revolutions are frequent, until in some happier mind they are incessant..." R.W.Emerson - Compensation

[ Parent ]
eventually i will get here (12.50 / 2)
with time to give my thoughts.
i'm so sorry it's taking me so long.
this is a fascinating subject.... worthy of long conversations.
anon good sir!

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



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