OWS Basic Info

Daily OWS News

Photobucket

Photobucket

We are....
~ firefly-dreaming
a virtual home to learn (or teach!) alternative methods of solving problems we find facing us each day. By sharing ideas & knowledge on living with less stress, more joy & embracing tolerance & compassion we are working towards building a sustainable future for all living beings.


please if you can...
help us glow brightly!

~OR~ if you'd prefer

Payment Options
Remember, you can always



Facebook

advertisement

Do it DAILY!
Photobucket
Just a few seconds of your time can make a BIG difference
in someone's life....


PhotobucketPhotobucket

be sure to click on ALL the top tabs at Click2Give!
Photobucket

be sure to click on ALL the side tabs at Care2!
Photobucket

Photobucket

Fight World Hunger






Brighter Planet's 350 Challenge

The Small Is Beautiful Manifesto

Photobucket

Greenpeace


I Support WWF


Join me at http://www.350.org




Saturday Open Thoughts

  

by: Alma

Sat Jul 24, 2010 at 01:00:00 AM EDT


Update on Lala

Little Miss Loller-skates might be trading in her Santa hat

Alma :: Saturday Open Thoughts
for a chin sling.

We've all kind of come to the conclusion that it's a jaw problem that lead to Lalas' teeth problems and then the mouth sore.  (Even thought the sore could still be from kidney disease.) There isn't really a normal vet process that works for taking care of it, but one of the people that posts at Guinea Lynx had a piggie with a similar problem and came up with the chin sling.  It doesn't work in all cases but we decided it's worth a try and our vet, Dr. Greear, agreed whole heartedly.  Dr. Greear was emailing the woman that makes them and is supposed to call when she hears back so we can get started as soon as possible.  Dr. Greear  was also calling what she called the Chi institute.  I know she does accupuncture and I think the aforementioned institute has the info she needs to know which pressure points on piggies go to the part of the jaw muscle in question.   She's interested in finding out if the chin sling puts pressure on the pressure points the institute would have matched up with the muscles.  She was also checking into which kind of massage would be best for us to do.  I think that had something to do with the pressure points too, but I'm not sure.

Now for the boring update parts.  Lala needed her front teeth trimmed again.  It had only been 2 weeks since she had it done but since she's not eating hay to wear them down they are growing like wild fire.  Dr. Greear took off over a centimeter on each.  All the back molars were still fine, thank goodness.  She also gave her another steroid shot.  Lala had been losing a fraction of an ounce each day which adds up quickly when you are so small.  From the 20th to the 21st she lost almost a whole ounce.  Then we got her alfalfa pellets the 22nd.  They aren't really supposed to have them as adults unless they are pregnant or nursing because they have way to much calcium and are way to fattening, but hey, we need fat on her right now.  By the time we weighted her the night of the 22nd she had gained a whole ounce back from eating a whole cup of her pellet mash (pellets soaked in boiling water, squash pulp, water and acidophilus powder blended together well).  :)

Happy Weekend!


Tags: , (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email

- You can use Disqus, Google, Twitter, Facebook, Yahoo or OpenID accounts to comment
We had (12.60 / 5)
bad storms here Fri. evening and night.  Powers out in a lot of this area, but luckily mine only went off for a few minutes.  They had a picture on the news of a tornado about 2 miles away.  My boner bush got blown over and Wayne went out and staked it up in between storms but when I got home from picking up Kate I noticed my best beef steak tomato plant is either down or limbs broken.  I can't do anything about it until morning.  :(

So sorry (13.33 / 6)
about your boner bush & tomato plant: that sux.

But your vet sounds wonderful & I hope the chin sling works.  Poor little Lala!

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Hopefully (15.00 / 5)
the boner bush and tomato plant will recover.  I think the chances for the boner bush are pretty good since he got it staked up so quickly.  I went and looked at the tomato plant this morning and it looks like it was a main stem that fell over and cracked.  For the time being I just propped it up inbetween the stakes I already had in the ground there.  Do you know if theres anything I can do to try and heal the stem?  Tape?  Anything?

The vet is wonderful.  :)  It can be really hard to find a vet that even works with exotics, never mind being excellent with them, and we were lucky enough to find one only a mile away.  I think Fate was playing a part there.  


[ Parent ]
Fate? Or FSM? (13.00 / 2)
The vet, I mean.  ;-D

Main stem on your tomato plant?  No.  I've never grown them, but I doubt it.  Where did it break off?  IIRC, tomato stems are hairy: and each of those hairs is capable of setting out roots.  It's part of what makes certain plants (like the mint family) so prolific.

Tomatoes, btw, are NOT annuals in their native environment.  They are perennials (or so I've read).  So if it's only partly broken, I would try to air-root it.  Stick some moist peat moss into and around the break, cover up the area with plastic wrap...wow, I haven't done this since college, but I think I taped or tied the plastic wrap to keep it fairly tight around the cut (I did this deliberately on a house plant, several times, with good results) and wait for the roots to grow.  With any luck the tomatoes will get sufficient nutrients through the unbroken part of the stem.  B/c they're tomatoes and outside, maybe you should use twine to affix the Saran.  Once the roots start to show, cut off the main stem and replant it in your garden.  It will need to be staked, of course, until the roots really take hold.

If there are branches below the break, those tomatoes should do fine, I think.

Sorry, Alma.  That's the best I can think of.  I don't even know how to Google for that kind of advice.  And as I said, I've never grown tomatoes, so take my advice with some salt.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Probably FSM :) (15.00 / 2)
I remember both my mom and MIL using that method to root tree and bush stems to make new ones for planting. I think they used the same method to splice a different variety into trees too.  FSM I wish I still had a good memory.  I hadn't thought about trying it on a non woody plant.  I think I'm going to try Rias idea to tie them up, (If they fit the criteria.  Yesterday was really crazy and I never made it back out there) and I think I'll use your idea on letting the ones that are just greens lay down if they want to.  

I love you and Ria sooo much!  :)

I have to go tie up the boner bush too.  It's got quite a lean to it.  LOL


[ Parent ]
We love you, too, sweetie! (13.00 / 2)
{{{{{{Alma!}}}}}}

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
alma- (13.00 / 2)
if your tomato stem has only one crack in less in length than twice the diamet of the stem- prop it up with a stake & use something soft but strong (old pantyhose work great) to put a "cast" on it, wrap cloth around wound several times (like an ace bandage) & tie ends together. use another cloth to tie stem to post propping it up.

if your tomato stem has many splits or even one very long split cut it off. take the cut off piece, strip the leaves off the bottom 2 ft of stem & plant it in good rich dirt. keep it evenly moist. very soon it will put out roots & grow another plant.
if you have a sunny window plant your tomato stem in a 3 or 5 gal. bucket & you can bring it inside & have fresh tomatoes this winter.

~~~

hope your Lala gets to feeling better very soon!

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
Going to (11.50 / 2)
see if I have any hose that aren't dry rotted.  There's probably a 50-50 chance I'll find some. ;)

[ Parent ]
so glad you missed (14.00 / 6)
the worst of the storm, sister, and lots of love and warm healing to little miss loller-skates. sure hope her new sling makes her feel better  :O)

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Thoreau ... and, do no harm

[ Parent ]
Thanks brother :) (12.20 / 5)
While I think the sling will annoy her at first I do think it will make her jaw feel better.  I think besides the muscle weakness that she actually has TMJ too because its like she can't control her jaw at all at times, with her mouth suddenly pulling the syringe sideways so its pulling on the corners of her mouth with her fighting trying to move it but just jerking it around at the corner.

I was feeding Lala in the floor when the power went out last night.  I figured she'd go hide in one of her sacks with the beeping from the AT&T backup battery for the phone going off, the howling wind and rain and the city siren going off.  She got real still at first, but then moved to stand a little more between my knees and continued eating in the near dark, noise and all. That really surprized me because piggies are usually so skittish.  


[ Parent ]
awwwww (13.00 / 2)
What a cute picture you paint, Alma.  She really sounds like a doll.

I hope she feels better soon, and can eat her hay again.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
She really (15.00 / 2)
is a sweet little doll.  Stubborn as all get out though.  I want to have someone take some pictures of her while I'm feeding her.  She's just to cute and adorable.  :)

[ Parent ]
Stupid me: I didn't think to check (15.00 / 5)
for the Saturday Open so I put this in the Friday Open, but I'm really curious what everyone thinks about this spaghetti recipe:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...

The only time I've ever cooked pasta in sauce was with the no-cook lasagna noodles -- which turned out very well.  I think the spaghetti recipe looks good too, especially if you use Italian sausage.  

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


Sounds like a fabulous recipe, Youff! (14.80 / 5)
Thanks for posting it and sharing it with us.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[ Parent ]
looks good, Youff (15.00 / 4)
especially with italian sausage. won't have the taste I crave of a nice, slow cooked sauce, but hell, I've been known to chow down on hamburger helper lasagna and be thankful for it!

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Thoreau ... and, do no harm

[ Parent ]
Thanks, newp... (15.00 / 2)
I kinda thought this one was too, erm, opening-of-cans for you: but nobody claimed it was gourmet.  Glad you think it looks worthy, b/c I might try it for dinner next week.  Y'know, when I actually cook to take food to work with me.  D'ya think it would work with regular pasta?  Or would it have to be angel hair?  Or would I just add a bit of water to the sauce if using regular pasta?  Any ideas?  And...doesn't Goya do a version of angel hair pasta?  Where can I find it in walking distance?  (LOL: that last bit is a joke.  As if you would ever want to visit this backwater.)

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
goya (15.00 / 2)
does make angel hair. where you'd find some is anyone's guess!

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett



[ Parent ]
Actually, my 'hood (9.00 / 2)
is fairly well Latino, so Goya products abound.

Unfortunately, I don't recall seeing the Goya angel hair pasta since leaving NYC.  Somebody must have it...maybe...I dunno.

Sav-A-Lot carries Goya, but the pasta they sell is some no-name brand.  And no angel hair or even linguine at all.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Pouring the heart out... (1.00 / 5)
The "quick" version of my story...

Pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones...

Should also mention... (12.20 / 5)
I'm very very very uncomfortable with the "father's rights" crowd, who've actually tried to recruit me a posterboy before.  I told 'em to fuck off, because I'm not with their agenda.

But the fact remains, the stuff they spew isn't at all complete bullshit.  Indeed, I went through it and can attest to it myself.

Pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones...


[ Parent ]
Gha (14.00 / 4)
Thats heartbreaking Jay.  And so unfair!  What stupid people to think your daughter would be better off with a proven bad nurturer and religious idiot over a loving father that feeds his daughter healthy foods.  

I go back and forth from Atheist and Agnostic but am more often in the Atheist catagory.  In fact I can't remember the last time I was in the Agnostic catagory. I think I've jsut gotten used to describing myself that way over the years.  We have several churchs around here that we consider cults so I think I get a good picture of your daughters grandmother and its not pretty.  


[ Parent ]
And it gets much worse... (8.60 / 5)
Oh FSM, then there's the "rehabs" my daughter's mother was put into by her mother - 'Teen Challenge', and a few others.

She dropped out, and they don't count dropouts in their success / graduation rate.  It's easy to tout numbers like 97% when you don't count the 2/3 of folks who never finish the program, eh?

The "church" they belong to, btw, was just sued by the State of California a couple years ago.  When we were still on 'good terms', they tried to recruit me as a missionary to the Philippines or South Korea.

I turned them down politely, much more politely than I should have.

I'm actually thinking now I should have gone for it, just to see what see these nutjobs are up to.

Pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones...


[ Parent ]
Sounds like (14.60 / 5)
they do their counting like the govt.  No longer looking for a job or out of benefits, then not counted as the unemployed.  What a crazy way to do things.

I'm glad you didn't take the position.  While it might have been interesting to see, I think it would drive a sane person insane working with them.


[ Parent ]
Right on, Alma! (14.20 / 5)
they do their counting like the govt.  No longer looking for a job or out of benefits, then not counted as the unemployed.  What a crazy way to do things

Very fucked up is more like it, imho.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


[ Parent ]
Then you might've been put through the ringer, JayinPortland. (14.00 / 4)
You're safer the way you are.  I know it sucks to not have steady work, but do you really want to work with a bunch of nasty, mealy-mouthed, slithering snakes for humans just to have a job?  I know that I wouldn't!

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[ Parent ]
(((((((Jay))))))) (14.00 / 4)
I can't even begin to fathom what you're going through, but please know that my heart is with you and your daughter, bro.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Thoreau ... and, do no harm

[ Parent ]
Jay this (13.00 / 5)
is so heartbreaking.  One day in a few years she will be able to make the choice and then you will have the chance to pick up the pieces.  At least she knows you love her and that is huge.  

I am so sorry, if it were me it would be so hard to get past the anger of this insanity but anger only hurts you.

Bear Shake Tree Pictures, Images and Photos


[ Parent ]
I just (13.50 / 4)
picked the first cucumber from my garden.  I have lots more growing too.  I was kind of surprized because the plant I picked it from was one I figured the wild bunnies would get.  It wasn't protected in any way.

When I looked at my tomato plant earlier I just looked at it from the closest side to the house.  When I went out this time I made it to the otherside and some of the stems were down on that side too, not broken just bent.  So I propped them up for the time being while I find something better. It really outgrew its cage.  The dang plant has about a 3 foot circumfrence and about 4 foot tall. Half the plant seems to be held up by my cantaloupe vines now.  


Alma, if it has hairy stems (14.00 / 1)
then, yes, pick up the parts where the tomatoes are...but let the hairy stems stay on the ground.

I don't know much about tomatoes, but I know how to root cuttings, and each and every one of the hairs can become a root.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Oh, and to successfully root a (8.00 / 2)
hairy-stem plant, what you want is even moisture in the soil.  Slightly moist, iow.  If the soil is too wet...well, you can't control the rainfall.  But do not let the soil get too dry during the rooting process.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Its going (15.00 / 2)
to be hard to keep the moisture low there when I water the rest of the plant, but I'll do the best I can.  

[ Parent ]
Not so much LOW moisture as (9.00 / 2)
not too boggy.  It's in the ground, so excess moisture will simply go lower into the soil (unless the plant is in a low, boggy place to begin with).

Oh, trying to get things "evenly moist" is the hardest part of learning how to do greenhouse watering.  Trust me on this one.

Best of luck.  I suspect Ria is more of an expert than I am on the subject of tomato plants.  ;-D

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Luckily (15.00 / 2)
the tomato plant is in a high spot so that shouldn't be a problem.  :)

Most of the time I use my hose head thingy on shower (front one)or gentle shower (the back) and it seems to get it pretty even.  There are some of the plants that I use the soaker part on.  Those plants that just always seem to need more water than the others.

Thanks Youff!  


[ Parent ]
Sweetie, wishing you & your tomato plant the best, (9.00 / 2)
as always.  But I still think Ria is the expert here...I am a mere dilettante.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  


[ Parent ]
Hugs for Lala (14.00 / 4)
And for you! Lala is lucky to have you taking such good care...

I have what is perhaps the human equivalent - Temporo-mandibular joint dysfunction or syndrome, aka TMJ or TMD or TMS or TMJD, etc. or 'jaw problems' along with a slight overbite and I can attest to the fact that at least in humans the jaw, teeth and gums all participate in a symptoms/causes cycle.

Myofascial trigger points are often coincident with the 'chi' points and pathways of Chinese traditional medicine and knowledge of them is useful in treating any muscular/skeletal symptom/cause of ailment, in my personal experience. So, there is definitely hope, I think, that you can help Lala with some appropriate massage.

Also in my experience, if you have some knowledge of your own trigger points you can find similar ones on cats and dogs. But I have no experience with smaller animals. If you can get them to lie still, you can do a little general massage and find the proper points by feeling for the tension and any micro-knots in muscle and connective tissue. Also, if you feel pronounced lack of bilateral symmetry in the jaw or neck muscles, you will generally find associated muscle tension/knotting somewhere. My associated muscular problems can manifest anywhere from the back of a shoulder or front of a shoulder up through my jaw and all the way up to all areas around the base of my skull. Be careful of course, but if you find the right spots you can apply a little pressure while micromassaging the points with a fingertip. Not too much pressure, that can make things worse, but just a little bit to knudge the muscles into realizing how tight they might be.

Of course, if the problem is that the muscles are too slack, then I would guess that keeping Lala's chin in the sling and not allowing any wide opening or extending of the jaw out of it's 'place' would be the best treatment. If that's the case and if you want those muscles and connective tissue to tighten up some, I'm just not sure whether massage would be good or bad, though...

Good luck and I hope that everything you are doing will continue to help Lala feel better and gain some weight. And take of yourself, too!

"In proportion to the vigor of the individual, these revolutions are frequent, until in some happier mind they are incessant..." R.W.Emerson - Compensation


Thank you! :) (15.00 / 3)
I'm going to try to find those spots on her in the morning.  :)  

I've mainly just been giving her a light jaw massage until I got some more info.  I know at the guinealynx site they suggest massaging each side of the jaw 5 minutes with an electric toothbrush to stimulate muscles, but I haven't found where they give detailed instruction as to the motions to use.  I know when you are going for relaxation it makes a big difference if its insertion to origin or viceversa.  I don't know if the same rules apply when you are trying to stimulate them.


[ Parent ]

advertisement

Photobucket



Since February 19, 2010


Need HELP setting up your website or blog? Have a site & want to give it more oomph?
Contact Edger at: edger10 {at} gmail {dot} com
Menu

If you would like to join us
you'll need an account

Please Click Here
to make one

Username:

Password:



Forget your username or password?


Song of the...

~♥~


Updated Twice Daily
5 am & 5pm





Follow DreamerFirefly on Twitter

Active Users
Currently 0 user(s) logged on.



Search




Advanced Search

advertisement

moon phases

CURRENT MOON


Links to Enjoy

In The Spotlight

~Plutocracy Files~

Radical Radio
~Left-Wing Radio Stations~

~Political Discontent Radio~

Brilliant Blogs
~Antemedius
~Be-Think
~Burning the Midnight Oil
~Cabaretic
~Daily Kos
~DocuDharma
~The Dream Antilles
~dubious ventures
~Ethicurean
~fake consultant
~Firedoglake
~Hecate
~Ignoring Asia
~La Vida Locavore
~Lets Japan
~Margaret & Helen
~Minimalist Photography
~The Minimalist Woman
~Muskegon Critic
~My Left Wing
~New Progressive Alliance
~Original Cin's
~patricjuillet
~Pioneer Woman Cooks!
~Right of Assembly
~The Stars Hollow Gazette
~Street Prophets
~Timbuk3
~White Knuckles
~Wild Wild Left
~Wise Living Journal
~

~Fun Finds

~Good Places

~
Interesting~

~
Spiritual Sites

~
Ready Resources

~
Weather



Powered by: SoapBlox