Future? There's a Future?

I don't drink. (12.50 / 6)

But I might start now...

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by: Edger @ Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 03:10:35 AM UTC

Edger... (14.83 / 6)

just finished part 1, so that's why answered only a half hour in your poll. I'll finish up tomorrow morning - I don't drink either, but Dr. Barlett definitely deserves a toast.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Thoreau ... and, do no harm

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by: newpioneer @ Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 05:47:27 AM UTC

Edger, you get a rec b/c I know (12.20 / 5)

I want to watch it...but I'm trying to calm down after too much coffee & am looking forward to an equally long (10+ hour) shift for the next few days.

Anything that will raise my blood pressure on top of being overcaffeinated is anathema...I gotta get up for work again tomorrow.

English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street.
E. B. White  

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by: Youffraita @ Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 07:13:45 AM UTC

hopefully (15.00 / 4)

i can get to this this afternoon edger.
i've got tooooo much going on this AM
as you didn't have a "will watch later" option i haven't done your poll.

& thank you

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett

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by: RiaD @ Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 12:58:16 PM UTC

Edger (15.00 / 5)

I watched both parts, I do not have an engineering brain but this is easy to get.  The message here goes hand in hand with the message in the new documentary Collapse there is no doubt we are headed on a collision course with population growth and resources.  We have all ready reached peak and that is what is driving the more expensive and riskier drilling, but do they tell us that?   Shit no.  What was humorous to me was the journalist and politician's clueless quotes and this is the crap we listen to everyday.  I love this guy dogging them with the facts.  I loved him showing how Jimmy Carter understood it and tried to do something when something could be done........ now it is too late.

Somehow Edger I missed when this was filmed but it wasn't today it was copyrighted in 2002 almost 10 years ago.

Please I encourage everyone to watch Collapse  http://www.collapsemovie.com/
and get ready because it is coming we need to prepare and teach our children how to survive. Money will be of no value, having seeds and knowing how to grow is critical.  We are use to changed happening slowly so we can prepare but it is now accelerating at a rapid rate and there is no going back to what was, this is the new reality. Communities that can sustain themselves without resources from the outside are the ones that will make it, if the weather doesn't wipe them out.

"Yes thinking is VERY upsetting!!"

"The facts do not exists because they are ignored...."  LOL I loved this one!

The Martin Luther King Jr. quote at the end was the cherry, what a brilliant man so ahead of his time.

As we get warnings from brilliant people over and over, we get data to show us the writing on the wall the reality is only a few will listen and maybe this is nature's way of natural selection........

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by: Kathleen @ Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 13:48:33 PM UTC

I can't change my vote... (14.20 / 5)

but I just finished watching all of Dr. Barlett's lecture - thank you, Edger

EVO - if your reading, you've been in my thoughts and heart so much lately. please know you are missed here, and I hope all is well.  

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Thoreau ... and, do no harm

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by: newpioneer @ Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 14:30:50 PM UTC

you owe me a drink (15.00 / 5)

or perhaps many drinks.

I'd seen the link to this before, but never made it through the whole thing until today.

Holy crap.  My head hurts.

A couple of resources popped to mind while watching this:

Twilight in the Desert  by Matthew Simmons, lays out the case for peak oil.

Deep Economy by Bill McKibben, points out the fallacy of our growth-centered economy.  

Both are great reads.

One depressing quote from the McKibben book:

Lawrence Summers, who served as Bill Clinton's secretary of the Treasury [and is currently Director of the White House National Economic Council], put it like this:  the Democratic administration [Clinton's] "cannot and will not accept any 'speed limit' on American economic growth.  It is the task of economic policy to grow the economy as rapidly, sustainably, and inclusively as possible."

The more things change, the more we recycle old ideas into government policy.

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by: puzzled @ Fri Jul 30, 2010 at 18:08:48 PM UTC

gha! (15.00 / 4)

"i think there must be dozens who've had 1st yr college calculus"

i'm halfway.

i always said Carter had it right. & everyone laughed at him & called him a dumb peanut farmer. shit he was smarter then all of 'em. he saw & tried to implement solar & other alnernative/natural/FREE once it's in place energy sources. gha we would have been so much better off.

i'll watch the rest tomorrow.

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett

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by: RiaD @ Sat Jul 31, 2010 at 01:03:45 AM UTC

edger (12.60 / 5)

mrD is very energized by this.

do you know how/if we can download this to make dvd's of this to send to our friends/family?

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger,
how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man?"
~The Patrician in 'Snuff' by Terry Pratchett

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by: RiaD @ Sat Jul 31, 2010 at 01:24:59 AM UTC